Notes/Domino 9.0.2. It's like the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. There are promises that it exists, but no real people have seen it. Some people (IBMers) even use it in a sentence. We've even been told about it at at least two Lotuspheres/Connect/ConnectED conferences (my guess is another Lotusphere will come and go before we see it). We're told of the (very much needed) new features (Java 8, AES port encryption, usability features, etc). But still it doesn't see the light of day. Still there is no official release date.

To prove this is not just me kicking up a storm lets find some facts. Here is a table of all Notes/Domino releases since 8.0 and how long each release took. I'm only looking at point releases here, not fixpacks (although IBM can argue that are adding things in FP's and IF's like TLS. I'd argue they should have done that in 7.0....my table, my rules).
Release  Approx release date Num of months from previous release
8.0.0
Aug-07
8.0.1
Feb-08
6
8.0.2
Aug-08
6
8.5.0
Dec-08
4
8.5.1
Oct-09
10
8.5.2
Aug-10
10
8.5.3
Oct-11
14
9.0.0
Mar-13
15
9.0.1
Oct-13
7
Average
9
Longest
15


As you can see above the average number of months for a Notes/Domino point release is 9 months give or take. Now 9.0.2. While there is still no release date a good estimate is February or March of 2016. 2016!!!

So if we add in a pretty good estimate date for 9.0.2 we get this:
Release  Approx release date Num of months from previous release
8.0.0
Aug-07
8.0.1
Feb-08
6
8.0.2
Aug-08
6
8.5.0
Dec-08
4
8.5.1
Oct-09
10
8.5.2
Aug-10
10
8.5.3
Oct-11
14
9.0.0
Mar-13
15
9.0.1
Oct-13
7
9.0.2
Feb-16**
28
Average
12.5
Longest
28
**estimated


We see that 9.0.2 is going to be released (albeit estimated) a whooping 28 months after 9.0.1. That's over 2 years and a truly staggering 13 months past the previous longest release (9.0.0) of 15 months.

Darren Duke   |   September 1 2015 07:57:26 AM   |    domino  notes  902    |  
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1 - Ben Langhinrichs    http://geniisoft.com/showcase.nsf/GeniiBlog    09/01/2015 8:51:53 AM

One can barely see the frigging wall for all the writing.

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2 - Darren Duke       09/01/2015 8:57:57 AM

@1, that does seem to be the message IBM is sending out.

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3 - Detlev Poettgen    http://netzgoetter.net    09/01/2015 9:48:21 AM

For 28 (!) months of development the so far public announced feature list for 9.0.2 is a joke.

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4 - Michael Kobrowski       09/01/2015 10:00:35 AM

Looks like their one Domino developer was too busy between server, client, Traveler/Verse app update. Its too bad, that one guy must be stressed.

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5 - Gab Davis    http://turtleblog.info    09/01/2015 10:43:23 AM

This does make it sound like IBM have done nothing since 9.0.1 shipped. In fact we are on Fixpack 4 of 9.0.1 with Fixpack 5 due in October. They are running to keep up with the java and SSL exploits like every other software provider too. There may not be exciting new features but the product is far from dead or ignored.

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6 - Lars Berntrop-Bos       09/01/2015 10:54:29 AM

analysing r5fixlist.nsf: 262 docs have 9.0.2 in MaintVerNum. Earliest date: 2014-01-09. Latest date: 2015-08-28

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7 - Ben Langhinrichs    http://geniisoft.com/showcase.nsf/GeniiBlog    09/01/2015 11:41:09 AM

I think Gab is right that the product is not being ignored and is not dead. The writing on the wall is that it is relatively static. As I mentioned in my MWLUG presentation, there are hidden bonuses to that. Extensions to the product (such as ours) and code written for the product (such as many people do) have a longer shelf life than they once did. Companies can invest a lot and know that the product will be maintained (vis the fix packs), but will not likely change so much as to render their custom or 3rd party investment irrelevant. That was not true 10 years ago.

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8 - Karsten Lehmann    http://www.mindoo.de    09/01/2015 4:04:48 PM

As a Java developer, waiting more than 6 months for JDK 1.8 support is not funny at all. The problem is that not all developers in the world like using JDK 1.6. They updated to JDK 1.7 and 1.8 years ago and they are using new JDK features in their projects.

As a Domino developer, more and more open source projects cannot be used anymore, because either the binary packages have newer class files that do not run in 1.6 or the source code contains Java features that need extra back porting or does not run at all.

Getting the latest TLS version is of course important, but I doubt that the same IBM developers are working on encryption, the JDK that is being used by Domino and NSF/NIF.

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9 - Adam Osborne       09/01/2015 6:32:10 PM

It's safe to say that if you're paying for Domino maintenance, you're paying for the development of Verse and the IBM cloud. Anything the on premises version of Domino gets will trickle down from the cloud. As for the Notes client, well there appears to be bugger all happening there.

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10 - Lars Berntrop-Bos       09/02/2015 4:06:43 AM

I must concur with Gab: development is surely not dead. With all the security and JVM upsets, I think the proper priority is safety first features next. The progression of fixpacks is also nicely tracked by r5fixlist

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11 - Ralf M Petter    http://www.everythingaboutit.eu    09/02/2015 6:46:06 AM

I really hope that IBM will release a Notes 9.0.2 client with JDK 1.8 new Searchengine and other enhancements soon, because it is not much fun to be limited by the JDK 1.6 if every other java developer on the world can use JDK 1.8. A Question to the users of Domino in the cloud: Are there any features promised for 9.0.2 in the cloud version of Domino/Notes? I ask because IBM has always promised that cloud users will get new features as soon as they are ready.

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12 - Steve Mullen       09/02/2015 10:37:10 AM